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I have a few questions about this ruling by the California Supreme Court.

The justice who wrote the opinion said that the state's gay rights laws override a doctor's right to turn down procedures he or she considers unethical "even if compliance poses an incidental conflict with the [doctor's] religious beliefs." I'm wondering, if a woman shows up at a pro-life doctor's OB clinic and demands he perform an abortion, will that be an "incidental" conflict too?

Is it really denial of service for a doctor to refuse a procedure while referring the patient to a colleague who will do it and works in the same office?

I noticed that in ooral arguments one of the justices suggested that the OB/GYN find a new line of work. I wonder how proponents of gay rights would take it if a state inspector refused to give a lesbian a license for her day care and told her she should just find a new line of work. Or perhaps a better example is the state's licensing board pulling the license of a gay child psychologist. "Sorry you've spent years attaining this level of education, but you should go be a housepainter or a wedding planner or something, because we get to decide how and with whom you work."

I wonder...if a psychologist (not a child psychologist, but one who handled adults) was a Muslim and didn't want to see a patient because she showed up for her appointments in minskirts and other revealing clothing, would California tell him to find a new line of work? If so, would gay activists protest on his behalf, or shrug their shoulders?

Why exactly is the lesbian couple's ability to get a service from the first provider they approach more important than the doctor's right of religious conscience? To elaborate, which would you rather hear from a judge: "You will have to find another provider for the service you desire" or "You must violate your faith in Christ, or else?" Which one of those violates the 1st Amendment?

If an atheist doesn't want to print tracts for me, should I be able to march into court and make him? How about if I have fliers for a "One Man One Woman" marriage rally? Should a gay printer raising three kids with a same-sex spouse be forced by a court of law to print them for me?

If a lesbian works at a tattoo shop, and a skinhead walks in and wants a tat that reads "All gays should be beaten to death," should she have to do the tat or can she refer the skinhead to someone else? What if the customer were a Christian who wanted a tat with the text of an Old Testament prohibition against homosexual conduct?

Fair questions about an unfair and tyrannical decision.

Chris Clukey
Contributing Editor

August 20, 2008, 0:00 a.m.

Parker is wrong on so many levels

• Interrogation ??? What is terrorizing about a discussion with a religious person ? Did I miss Warren water boarding his guests ?

• The loser was America. The loser was religious bigots like Ms. Parker who seek to send the religious to the back of the bus !

• It is also un-American. Who appointed Ms. Parker the pope of the church of Ayn Rand ? Why is she the the arbitrator of Americana ? What the hell is "American" anyway ?

• This is about higher principles that are compromised every time we pretend we’re not applying a religious test when we’re really applying a religious test. Higher principles ? On what basis is Parker able to condemn religious tests her epistemology allows for no right or wrong being based on the sacred writ of the whoremaster Jefferson ?

• religious test ? Gee I missed the questions on transubstantiation,Trinity and  proper church government . 

• but viewers would be justified in squirming. The people liked it ! Ms. Parker only a handful of Atheists  whos hatred  of God is so  unchained  they couldn't sit and learn squirmed.......can we say DIVERSITY. Guilt issues Ms. Parker ?
  

• What’s next? Interrogations by rabbis, priests, and imams. The last bastion of a defeat premise the "slippery slope " canard.I'm fine with all that.

• secular laws. Oh like the polygamy  laws or laws of consanguinity 

• What would have happened to Thomas Jefferson if he had responded as he wrote in 1781: “It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” Thomas Jefferson approved of sending Bibles to the Native American tribes. I suppose he was violating his own sacred principles? Thomas Jefferson would have gone down in flames if the farmers and preachers had the web ; he benefited from a paper monopoly on information. Jefferson was a whore master and just one of the Founding Fathers. What about Patrick Henry or George Washington ?
  

Purpose-Driven Politics
What were John McCain and Barack Obama doing at Saddleback?

By Kathleen Parker

At the risk of heresy, let it be said that setting up the two presidential candidates for religious interrogation by an evangelical minister — no matter how beloved — is supremely wrong.

It is also un-American.

For the past several days, since mega-pastor Rick Warren interviewed Barack Obama and John McCain at his Saddleback Church, most political debate has focused on who won.

Was it the nuanced, thoughtful Obama, who may have convinced a few more skeptics that he isn’t a Muslim? Or was it the direct, confident McCain, who breezes through town-hall-style meetings the way Obama sinks three-pointers from the back court.

Suffice it to say, each of the candidates’ usual supporters felt validated in their choices. McCain convinced and comforted with characteristic certitude those most at ease with certitude; Obama convinced and comforted with his characteristic intellectual ambivalence those most at ease with ambivalence.

The winner, of course, was Warren, who has managed to position himself as political arbiter in a nation founded on the separation of church and state.

The loser was America.

In his enormously successful book, The Purpose-Driven Life, Warren begins: “It’s not about you.” Agreed. Nor is this criticism aimed at Christians, evangelicals, other believers or non-believers — or at Warren, who is a good man with an exemplary record of selfless works. Few have walked the walk with as much determination or success.

This is about higher principles that are compromised every time we pretend we’re not applying a religious test when we’re really applying a religious test.

It is true that no one was forced to participate in the Saddleback Forum and that both McCain and Obama are free agents. Warren certainly has a right to invite whomever he wishes to his church and to ask them whatever they’re willing to answer.

His format and questions were interesting and the answers more revealing than the usual debate menu provides. But does it not seem just a little bit odd to have McCain and Obama chatting individually with a preacher in a public forum about their positions on evil and their relationship with Jesus Christ?

The past few decades of public confession and Oprah-style therapy have prepared us perfectly for a televangelist probing politicians about their moral failings. The Warren Q&A wasn’t an inquisition exactly, but viewers would be justified in squirming.

What is the right answer, after all? What happens to the one who gets evil wrong? What’s a proper relationship with Jesus? What’s next? Interrogations by rabbis, priests, and imams? What candidate dare decline on the basis of mere principle?

Both Obama and McCain gave “good” answers, but that’s not the point. They shouldn’t have been asked. Is the American electorate now better prepared to cast votes knowing that Obama believes that “Jesus Christ died for my sins and I am redeemed through him,” or that McCain feels that he is “saved and forgiven”?

What does that mean, anyway? What does it prove? Nothing except that these men are willing to say whatever they must — and what most Americans personally feel is no one’s business — to win the highest office.

Warren tried to defuse criticism about staging the interviews in his church by saying that though “we” believe in the separation of church and state, “we” don’t believe in the separation of faith and politics. Faith, he said, “is just a worldview, and everybody has some kind of worldview. It’s important to know what they are.”

Presumably “we” refers to Warren’s church of fellow evangelicals. And while, yes, everybody has some kind of worldview, it shouldn’t be necessary in a pluralistic nation of secular laws to publicly define that view in Christian code.

For the moment, let’s set aside our curiosity about what Jesus might do in a given circumstance and wonder what our founding fathers would have done at Saddleback Church. What would have happened to Thomas Jefferson if he had responded as he wrote in 1781: “It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

Would the crowd at Saddleback have applauded and nodded through that one? Doubtful.

By today’s new standard of pulpits in the public square, Jefferson — the great advocate for religious freedom in America — would have lost.

— Kathleen Parker is author of Save the Males.

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Russia Makes New Threats Over U.S.-Poland Missile Deal

Plan Said to Defend Against Regimes Like Iran, but Some See It as Shield for Poland Against Russia

By TOMEK ROLSKI and JONATHAN KARL

MOSCOW, Aug. 20, 2008

Russia's foreign ministry today threatened to go beyond diplomatic protests in response to the signing of a U.S.-Polish deal to base part of an American missile defense system in Poland, which borders part of Russia.

The latest threat came after a top Russian general said Poland would risk a military strike if it allowed the base and as U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice dismissed Russia's saber rattling, saying the threats "border on the bizarre."

"When you threaten Poland, you perhaps forget that it is not 1988," Rice said, according to The Associated Press. "It's 2008 and the United States has a ... firm treaty guarantee to defend Poland's territory as if it was the territory of the United States. So it's probably not wise to throw these threats around."

But in addition to the threats, Russia may be making a more concrete move. Norway's defense ministry claims Russia has told it that it plans to cut all military ties with NATO, The Associated Press reports.

The United States insists that the missile defense deal signed with Poland today is meant to protect the West from rogue states like Iran and North Korea. Poland, however, sees this as defense against Russia, a closer, and much more powerful, potential adversary.

Hours before inking the pact with Rice, Poland's President Lech Kaczynski addressed his nation on TV and declared, "No one will ever again tell Poland what to do and what not to do."

He was likely referring to Russia, which invaded Poland in 1939 and asserted control over the Polish government until the collapse of the Warsaw Pact in 1990.

Kaczynski's defiant speech came a week after Russia angrily warned that allowing U.S. missile interceptors on Polish soil put Poland at risk of a military strike.

"If Poland allows elements of the U.S. missile shield to be placed in its territory it will expose itself to a strike ... and that's a hundred percent sure," threatened deputy head of Russia's General Staff Col. Gen. Anatoly Nogovitsyn.

Nogovitsyn's comment was particularly menacing, since it came days after Russian forces invaded its neighbor Georgia in a spat over the province of South Ossetia.

"It's Georgia today, Ukraine tomorrow and Poland may be next," Kaczynski said.

Today, Russia's foreign ministry issued a new threat -- implying that Russia was the target of the new missile base and not some "imaginary Iranian danger."

"Russia in this case will have to react, and not only through diplomatic protests," said a statement from the ministry, according to Reuters.

The statement described the missile shield as "one of the instruments in an extremely dangerous bundle of American military projects involving the one-sided development of a global missile shield system."

According to the deal, the United States will construct a military base at Redzikowo on the Baltic coast. There, on an area no larger than the size of a football field, will be 10 silos with missiles ready for possible launch by 2012.

The relatively small missile defense system could be easily overwhelmed by Russia's vast force of long-range missiles, but under the deal the United States also agreed to provide a Patriot missile defense system that could be used to defend Poland against a short-range missile defense threat that could potentially come from Russia.

In today's pact, the United States and Poland agreed to a "mutual commitment" to come to each other's assistance "in case of military or other threats."

Aleksander Szczyglo, defense minister in Poland's previous government, went so far as to call today's signing one of three significant "milestones" since Poland regained full independence in 1989.

"First was NATO membership, then joining the European Union and now a tangible tightening of our alliance with the U.S.," he said.

Russia's renewed assertiveness and its invasion of Georgia has fortified fears that the Kremlin may attempt to regain its spheres of influence and meddle in Polish affairs.

"Russia wants to regain influence over Poland, similar to influence Russia enjoyed during the time of the Warsaw Pact," military analyst Michal Fiszer told ABC News. "Any increase in Polish defense and security goes against those plans."

It would seem that as a member of NATO and the European Union Poland should feel it has enough security guarantees. But many Polish politicians express frustration with Western Europe's approach to Russia as too submissive and vulnerable to Russian oil and gas blackmail.

Only weeks ago, the 18 months of Polish-U.S. missile talks appeared on the verge of collapse. The Poles suspended negotiations after the United States refused to meet their demands and public opinion polls found that 70 percent of Poles were against the missile shield on their territory. Poles began protesting the plan.

All that changed on Aug. 8, when Russian armor rolled into Georgia.

"When Russia performs military operations that are perceived as aggressive and brutal, even relatively far from our borders, people in Poland fear," political analyst Grzegorz Kostrzewa-Zorbas told ABC News.

"The war in Georgia very quickly and suddenly changed the mood of Poles," Kostrzewa-Zorbas said. "In a week, a strong majority emerged supporting the American missile shield in Poland."

Now, 63 percent support American military presence on Polish soil and feel that the closer ties enhance Poland's security.

The American side also had a large shift in opinion.

"The Americans were unwilling to give Poland any anti-missile and air defense system optimized to defend Polish airspace and territory. They did not want to give Poland Patriot missiles," he said. "Now it is different."

Pawel Zaleski, a member of the Polish parliament, told ABC News that it is clear that Russia is trying to "create an area of domination around its borders."

"People in Poland do remember history, and they understand what it means to have such a neighbor returning to his old ways," Zaleski said. "People see the war in Georgia ... so of course it creates an impact on people's thinking."

Marek Ostrowsk, an analyst for the Polityka weekly, told ABC News that Poland traditionally has more confidence in the United States than its European alliances.

"Traditionally and historically, we think America is more reliable than Europe," Ostrowsk said. "In 1918, we regained independence thanks to the U.S. When World War II began in 1939, we were let down by our allies, Britain and France. But the U.S. has never failed us."

My fellow Americans. I'm pleased to announce that I've signed legislation outlawing the Soviet Union. We begin bombing in five minutes." -joking during a mike check before his Saturday radio broadcast

American Carol !

(Chorus:)
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves. 

When Britain first, at heaven's command,
Arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter of the land,
And Guardian Angels sang this strain:

(Chorus)

The nations not so blest as thee
Must, in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish great and free:
The dread and envy of them all.

(Chorus)

Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
More dreadful from each foreign stroke,
As the loud blast that tears the skies
Serves but to root thy native oak.

(Chorus)

Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.

(Chorus)

To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine;
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles, thine.

(Chorus)

The Muses, still with freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coasts repair.
Blest isle! with matchless beauty crowned,
And manly hearts to guard the fair.

(Chorus)
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

MCCAIN PULLS AHEAD 'BY 5 POINTS'

Prediction Billary will unleash a massive scandal and then with reservations accept the nomination !

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Oh my gosh - and right in there, after Warren said "We'll get to that," did I just hear McCain say something about "yeah, and when we speak about the rights of the unborn we can talk about judges..." ??????

"The rights of the unborn" were Warren's exact words to Obama.
Do I have this right that the topic had not yet come up with McCain?

I believe that makes THREE cases of him knowing specific topics BEFORE they were ever brought up!

If you didn't check out the "youtube" on the post above, you need to. Note that you need to wait or go to 3 minutes and 25 seconds in. Keep listening!

No wonder McCain was so excited and up and giddy. He acted like the cat who just ate the canary. Apparently he did!

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ELECTION 2008
Was young Obama Indonesian citizen?
Document, travel suggest 'Barry Soetero' member of world's largest Muslim country

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Posted: August 17, 2008
8:18 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein

Ft. Leavenworth Kansas, goodbye ocean breezes, good food and liberal freedoms. I say where house them and let them preform labor at this jewel of a prison....Welcome to Ft. Leavenworth Kansas USA

I say we send our military prisoners to Gitmo and let these terrorist dwell here

Confinement

Prisoners’ lives are molded by the degree of supervision needed to minimize risk to others. Custody grades include installation trusty, minimum, minimum inside only, medium and maximum.

The special-housing unit is reserved for inmates who could be locked up 23 hours a day. Food is slid into cells through narrow slots, and a small window at the foot of each door lets the guards, known within the USDB as correctional specialists, chain inmates’ ankles before they’re escorted out for showers or fresh air.

Every time one of these inmates moves, two or three staff members are with them. The correctional specialists actually have more contact with maximum-security inmates than those who pose fewer risks.

Small liberties are granted to inmates who toe the line. They get TV-time and meals served from a food cart in a common area instead of on a tray in their locked cells.

Despite prospects of moving to a lower-custody grade for good behavior, some inmates remain in maximum security for most of their stay.

The staff’s intent is for all inmates to join the general population. Medium- and minimum-security areas contain large open spaces where inmates may spend free time.

Even so, security cameras capture every action in every cell and corner of the prison.

City defends 'secret jail' built for DNC Thermonuclear Images DENVER - Activist groups say the converted warehouse poses a threat to civil liberties. The city maintains the facility is needed in case of mass arrests during the Democratic National Convention. The makeshift holding center, dubbed "Gitmo on the Platte" by activists, is located on city-owned property near Steele Street and 38th Avenue. Newly-installed security cameras guard the exterior, chain-link fences and barbed wire form cells inside. "We feel the city should be ashamed of this secret prison they've set up," said Re-create '68 organizer Glenn Spagnuolo. Spagnuolo and other activists gathered outside the formerly-secret facility on Friday to protest the city's plan to use it as a processing center for all those arrested outside the DNC. "The public was never going to view this place, it was just found out," Spagnuolo said. "They got caught with this place. They told our lawyers in negotiations that this place didn't even exist." "This was never a secret site," said Undersheriff Bill Lovingier, the city's director of corrections. Lovingier said the city had long planned to build a new holding facility for the DNC, which triples the processing speed of the city jail. Lovingier said the Steele Street warehouse will be able to process 60 arrestees an hour. "This center is designed as an arrest processing site," Lovinger said. "There will be no housing or long-term detentions." Activists said that claim was doubtful. "What's going to happen here is police are going to detain people for an inordinate amount of time," said Unconventional Denver organizer Ben Yager. "They're going to use this as an excuse to keep people out of the courts and off of the streets." Protest groups questioned whether the makeshift facility would be suitable for inhabitation after years as a storage facility. Lovinger said air-conditioning has been installed and the Denver Fire Department has certified it meets fire codes. "We've provided for restroom facilities, water, medical assistance," Lovingier said. "We tried to mirror in this facility what we do every day in our city jail." (Copyright KUSA*TV. All rights reserved.)

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From Achmed the dead terrorist.....

Dear Georgians, look to Iraq for your guide on how to harass a superior military force. Just for the sake of humor imagine a .50 cal or 20 mm cannon barrel with adjustments utilized against the enemy choke points tunnels,bridges and narrow gaps.

Plenty of info is available on the web concerning EFPs or just consider the laws of physic's .

You shall overcome ! Achmed

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A Catholic Case Against Barack

Mr. Buchanan is a nationally syndicated columnist and author of Churchill, Hitler, and "The Unnecessary War": How Britain Lost Its Empire and the West Lost the World, "The Death of the West,", "The Great Betrayal," "A Republic, Not an Empire" and "Where the Right Went Wrong."